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  1. shootersa

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    Aw, your feelings for the people here ILLEGALLY are touching.

    We note no sympathy for the American family who has had their life destroyed. To say nothing of a 12 year old boy murdered.

    What of the Florida woman raped and murdered by the ILLEGAL MIGRANT. What law would have prevented that tragedy?

    It is not unreasonable to insist that people wanting to live in America come here LEGALLY and follow the process America has for immigration.

    Giving them drivers licenses, housing, doing their laundry for them is not the way to avoid these tragedies.

    Deporting them until they respect and follow our laws is.
     
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    This has nothing whatsoever about the fact that they are illegal in the US. Over and over, it's about a person driving illegally, whoever they are.

    The entire point of licensing those who are driving, is to protect the American family from being run over by a reckless or poorly educated driver.

    Not unreasonable at all. No argument from me. But this is about people who don't know how to drive.

    Yes, it is. We don't give them drivers licenses, they earn it....take a course, pass a written and road test to demonstrate ability.
     
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      His hypocrisy just glares like the sun. When it comes to mass shootings its never the easy access to assault weapons and extended magazines that is the problem. The fault lays on the individual. But when an undocumented immigrant kills someone that's all President Biden's fault.
       
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    You can try to keep putting ILLEGAL MIGRANTS on the same footing as Americans who violates the law, but you fail.

    An ILLEGAL MIGRANT not being dealt with in this country offends our sense of soverinity.

    That you go to such extremes exposes your lack of pride for America as a country.

    And your lack of sympathy for a dead child and their family is disgusting.

    No wonder you vote biden/liberal.
     
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    "When I took office, I committed to fixing this broken immigration system. And I began by doing what I could to secure our borders. Today, we have more agents and technology deployed to secure our southern border than at any time in our history. And over the past six years, illegal border crossings have been cut by more than half."

    — President Obama, November 20, 2014
     
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  5. toniter

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    They're here. They've been here for decades. You gotta accept the fact that they're here, no matter how much you don't want them to. And they're driving, no matter how much you don't want them to. Protect yourself. Have them learn to drive the right way, license them, insure them. That protects you.

    Fine. But that has nothing to do with licensing and insuring all drivers.

    Oh, please. I'm as much of a patriot as you are. Although, I don't support the #1 America Hater....Mr. T.

    You know, you go too far insulting others and calling names. Sometimes it's cute, the despicable/deporable shtick, and sometimes its plain smelly asshole. Kapish?
     
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    Yes.
    Speaking of assholes.
     
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    In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.

    Theodore Roosevelt
     
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    Well, Teddy was wrong when it comes to the 21st century, at least. I get it, that total allegiance and love for this country is paramount. But there is a difference between love of country and roots, culture, and pride of origin. You see the Irish right about now marching down the street in parades, dressed in green, drinking green beer. They love their Irishness and are proud of it. But they are Americans through and through. What's the problem here?
    On the other hand, flying the confederate battle flag is very....very...un-American. Thank you for pointing that out.
    Finally, who cares what language someone speaks? I'm much more concerned with what side of the road they drive on. But this is small stuff.
     
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      I wonder if he feels the same way about Jewish Americans who have allegiance to Israel.
       
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    Triggered troll triggers.
    First, your offense at Shooter pointing out your lack of sympathy for dead Americans and traumatized families at the hands of ILLEGAL MIGRANTS is laughable.
    Shooter stuck your nose in the pile of shit you were defending and the smell offended you.
    How ............. sad. :D

    Second, celebrating heritage is not a bad thing, whether for the Irish or the Confederate South. Celebrating America and defending her against all enemies is the point.

    The first and primary job of government is to defend the sanctity of our borders and the security of our people. When government fails at that, not much else matters.

    To defend giving ILLEGAL MIGRANTS drivers licenses and letting them buy insurance does not secure our borders or our security. It encourages more ILLEGAL MIGRANTS to come here. And it gets more Americans killed at the hands of ILLEGAL MIGRANTS.

    So, now that you're hurt is being taken care of, what law would you pass to prevent the Laken Riley tragedy?
    Rape insurance?
    Homicide insurance?
     
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  12. toniter

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    Someone, I forget who, famously responded, "Dismissed" at remarks he thought to be childish.

    Yes, second.... the confederate south is hardly a heritage. They were the enemy of the US. Read up on it.

    No, making all drivers secure a drivers license and mandatory insurance doesn't secure our borders but it does aid in our security. You think some woman tells her little child as they are at the threat of gang murder in Honduras (or wherever), "Hey, we're going to the USA where I can get a drivers license. Let's go!"

    The laws are already in place. Any monster who creates this kind of crime faces life in prison, maybe execution. No matter his immigration status or birthplace.
     
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      What is just so sickening about all that is treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans have no allegiance to the United States of America, our Constitution, democracy, or rule of law. Their only allegiance is to Trump.
       
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  13. shootersa

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    You should have led with this. Wouldn't be any debate.
     
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      I see, You're back to hurling insults. That's your debating style....good technique.
       
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    This has probably already been posted but its worth it to keep exposing the racist lies being told here.


    The mythical tie between immigration and crime
    Research by Stanford’s Ran Abramitzky and co-authors uncovers the most extensive evidence to date that immigrants are less likely to be imprisoned than U.S.-born individuals.
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    Opponents of immigration often argue that immigrants drive up crime rates. But newly released research from Stanford economist Ran Abramitzky and his co-authors finds that hasn’t been the case in America for the last 140 years.

    The study

    reveals that first-generation immigrants have not been more likely to be imprisoned than people born in the United States since 1880.

    Today, immigrants are 30 percent less likely to be incarcerated than are U.S.-born individuals who are white, the study finds. And when the analysis is expanded to include Black Americans — whose prison rates are higher than the general population — the likelihood of an immigrant being incarcerated is 60 percent lower than of people born in the United States.

    While other research has also debunked claims that immigration leads to more crime, this study of incarceration rates provides the broadest historical look at the relationship between immigration and crime across the country and over time, says author Abramitzky. Abramitzky is the Stanford Federal Credit Union Professor of Economics and senior associate dean of social sciences in the School of Humanities and Sciences, as well as a senior fellow at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research (SIEPR).

    The study is detailed in a working paper released by the National Bureau of Economic Research. Using U.S. Census Bureau data, it focuses on immigrants present in the Census regardless of their legal status and on men between the ages of 18 and 40.

    “From Henry Cabot Lodge in the late 19th century to Donald Trump, anti-immigration politicians have repeatedly tried to link immigrants to crime, but our research confirms that this is a myth and not based on fact,” says Abramitzky, whose 2022 book, Streets of Gold: America’s Untold Story of Immigrant Success,

    examines the many misconceptions around immigration.

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    An analysis of U.S. Census data by SIEPR Senior Fellow Ran Abramitzky and his collaborators shows immigrants have had similar or lower incarceration rates than white U.S.-born men for the last 140 years of American history.
    In their analysis of Census data from 1850 to 2020, Abramitzky and his co-authors find that, compared to U.S.-born individuals, immigrants as a group had higher incarceration rates before 1870 and similar rates between 1880 and 1950. Since 1960, however, immigrants have been less likely to be incarcerated than have the U.S.-born.

    According to the study, this is the case for almost every region in the world that is a major source of immigrants to the United States. As of 2019, immigrants from China and eastern and southern Europe were committing the fewest number of crimes — as measured by incarceration rates — relative to U.S.-born individuals.

    The exception is Mexican and Central American immigrants, but the higher incarceration rates for this group since 2005 is largely attributed to the fact that the Census data combines incarceration for criminal acts with detentions for immigration-related offenses, the researchers say in the paper. Incarceration rates among Mexican and Central American immigrants were similar to those of U.S.-born individuals between 1980 and 2005.

    What’s more, comparing the imprisonment of Mexican and Central American immigrants to that of white males born in the United States based on education tells a different story, according to Abramitzky. Men without a high school degree are the group most likely to be incarcerated for criminal activity. “But Mexican and Central American immigrants with low levels of education, which comprise a large share of immigrants from this region, are significantly less likely to be incarcerated than U.S.-born men with similarly low levels of education,” he says.

    Abramitzky’s co-authors include Leah Platt Boustan, an economics professor at Princeton and co-author of Streets of Gold; Elisa Jácome, an assistant professor of economics at Northwestern and a former SIEPR postdoctoral fellow; Santiago Pérez, an associate professor of economics at the University of California, Davis; and Juan David Torres, a Stanford PhD student in economics and former predoctoral fellow at SIEPR.

    Immigrants vs. U.S.-born: Different economic forces
    In setting out to compare criminality over time, the researchers took on a big challenge: Finding credible evidence of a connection between immigration and crime — and over a long time period — is extremely difficult. Other studies have relied on arrests records, but those do not include immigration status or birthplace. They also include arrests for minor infractions, which can reflect police bias more than actual crimes.

    Instead, Abramitzky and his collaborators chose to analyze incarceration rates, which they say are better indicators of serious crime because they often require a conviction. As their primary data source, they turned to decennial censuses and surveys from the U.S. Census Bureau, which include information on individuals in correctional facilities and their birthplace — thereby allowing the researchers to build what they say is the first nationally representative dataset of incarceration rates for immigrants and the U.S.-born going back 170 years.

    The researchers say it’s not entirely clear why the data show that immigrants have been imprisoned at increasingly lower rates than U.S.-born males since 1960.

    “Many of the explanations we had in mind turned out to NOT be right when we looked at the data,” Abramitzky says. For example, examining differences in age, marital status, or education levels among immigrants didn’t provide a clue. Nor did changes in immigration policy or the states in which immigrants settled.

    It is also unlikely, he says, that deportations contributed to the relatively lower rates of immigrant incarcerations.

    The researchers conclude the likely explanation is that first-generation immigrants are faring better overall (and not just with respect to incarceration rates) than are U.S.-born men — especially compared to those without a high school diploma.

    Globalization and advances in technology have hit white males hard, especially those who were born in the United States and who didn’t finish high school. Compared to immigrants, they are much more likely to be unemployed, unmarried, and in poor health — and perhaps more prone to commit crimes as a result, Abramitzky says.

    The manual jobs that immigrants typically take on have been stable by comparison. Other studies have shown that immigrants also are, among other characteristics, highly adaptable and resilient.

    “Recent waves of immigrants are more likely to be employed, married with children, and in good health,” Abramitzky says. “Far from the rapists and drug dealers that anti-immigrant politicians claim them to be, immigrants today are doing relatively well and have largely been shielded from the social and economic forces that have negatively affected low-educated U.S.-born men.”

    https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/mythical-tie-between-immigration-and-crime



    And now whose hands is all this blood on?



    Almost 5,000 people have died in U.S. gun violence so far in 2024
    The shootings have reignited debate about gun violence in America.

    ByKiara Alfonseca
    February 15, 2024, 11:37 AM


    following a parade and rally for the Kansas City Chiefs' Super Bowl win has left one person dead and at least 21 others injured, according to officials.

    The shooting has reignited discussions about the prevalence of gun violence in America.

    As of Feb. 15, at least 4,994 people have died from gun violence in the U.S. this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive – which is an average of about 108 deaths each day. Another 3,351 people have been injured.


    Of those who have died from gun violence, 147 were teens and 31 were children.

    Last year, gun violence deaths and injuries decreased by at least 8% compared to 2022, with some cities seeing decreases of more than 20%, according to GVA.

    Recent Stories from ABC News

    There were 43,065 gun deaths in 2023, with more than 36,000 people injured. Gun deaths, excluding suicides, in 2023 were the lowest they had been since 2020. Injuries were the lowest they had been since 2019.


    Mass shootings
    There have been more than 49 mass shootings in 2024 so far, which is defined by the Gun Violence Archive as an incident in which four or more victims are shot or killed.

    These mass shootings have led to more than 80 deaths and more than 170 injuries.

    The Jan. 23 string of shootings in Joliet, Illinois by a single suspect marks the deadliest incident of the year. Eight people were killed and nine shot in what Joliet, Illinois, authorities are referring to as 23-year-old deceased suspect Romeo Nance's "reign of terror."

    Mass shootings in the U.S. have more than doubled in the last decade.


    In 2014, there were 272 mass shootings. In 2023, there were 656. Mass shootings peaked at 689 in 2021, according to GVA.




    Deaths by suicide
    Deaths by suicide have made up the vast majority of gun violence deaths so far this year.


    There's been 3,036 deaths by gun suicide this year, an average of about 66 deaths by suicide per day.

    Though GVA has not yet released suicide data for 2023, deaths by suicide have been on the rise throughout the decade.






    Other shootings


    The grim tally of gun violence deaths includes 174 people killed in police officer-involved shootings. Seven police officers have been fatally shot in the line of duty this year.

    There also have been 181 "unintentional" shootings, the Gun Violence Archive shows. Unintentional shootings reached the lowest they had been in a decade.


    https://abcnews.go.com/US/gun-violence-claimed-lives-5000-people-2024/story?id=107262776
     
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  17. shootersa

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    We see what american hater did there.
    His page long bloviation is all about IMMIGRANTS and crime.
    Sirius post was about ILLEGAL MIGRANTS committing crime.
    See the distinction now?

    And american haters attempt to divert talking about gun deaths?
    FAIL

    TWAT
     
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      As always, they refuse to address the real issues that biden has burden us with, so they must resort to diversion
       
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      Bromance
       
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      Homo, you stumblbutt and dog doing each other. :suck_dick::suck_dick: :ass::doggystyle2:
       
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      Homo Sapiens???
       
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